- Back button becomes Cancel
- Submit button becomes Save
- Tons of open source frameworks to bridge to the backend
- Rich Internet Applications was a word that rolled off the presenter’s tongue with no problems.
- Many are now thinking of building web applications, not websites; key difference in mindset & goal
- Many just discovering the wonders of Prototype
- Java peeps are still interested in learning about Laszlo
To go into more detail, it was fantastic to have the AJAX community question the “breaking” of the back button; expanding on what Brandspanking new said in response to Mario Klingemann’s post. “Do we really need it?” This is an application, not a page by page metaphor. As a Flash Developer, my take is “no shit, Sherlock” but having another community, mainly Web Developers, echoing the sentiment on already engrained technologies says a lot, lends credence to our original claims, and helps the cause. Unlikely allies.
The questioning of conventional wisdom by that many more people on how the web is supposed to work is just great; really excited to have another movement going on.
Additionally, one good point made by one of the presenters, Steve Benfield, was how he thinks AJAX will shake up the open source framework community for Java. Many are page based metaphors; none think like application front-ends, like Flex does currently.
Another point my colleague, formerly of JBoss & Spring fame, Les brought up was there are clients who do not want, or can’t, install anything, and simply want to use installed software that can scale to hundreds of thousands of users (ie Java clustered backend). Since you can’t use Flash or Flex on the front-end for such situations, he has a valid point. Good thing I’ll just keep sucking at HTML & CSS to ensure I don’t get assigned to such projects.
Another point he brought up during the post-preso question phase; anyone done tests with 200,000 user requests?
Both Flash & AJAX both increase the amount of server requests, but reduce the bandwith of those requests. No one there could answer if the effects have been tested to actually cause problems. Yes, the bandwidth is lower, but you are now accepting more continous connections.
As all of my past clients, fulltime & contract, none have reported server errors which lead me to believe I’m either better at server-side coding than I thought, or more likely I’ve never had my applications reach the concurrent user base Les was asking about. Time will tell, but I’m banking on AMF vs. Gzipped strings.
Did I mention it was funny to see a Java programmer showing his code, and he wrote it like this?
this.addStyle = function()
Thanks again, Burr!