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	Comments on: Flash and Search Engine Placement Debunking: Part 1	</title>
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		By: JesterXL		</title>
		<link>https://jessewarden.com/2004/08/flash-and-search-engine-placement-debunking-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JesterXL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good point about the SWF text in and out... it&#039;ll definately take a few months to hash out each variable, assuming their algo&#039;s stay constant, which is doubtful.  Still, it&#039;s fun to try!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the SWF text in and out&#8230; it&#8217;ll definately take a few months to hash out each variable, assuming their algo&#8217;s stay constant, which is doubtful.  Still, it&#8217;s fun to try!</p>
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		By: disc7		</title>
		<link>https://jessewarden.com/2004/08/flash-and-search-engine-placement-debunking-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[disc7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 17:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks. If anyone&#039;s up for helping to promote the Flash Movie Test please only link through to this page (www.disc7.com/flash-movie-test/).


Regarding Mark&#039;s how to obtimize Flash article, James Ellis wrote a technique that goes into more detail and looks at the practicalities of loading a HTML version of a Flash site for bots and redirecting SERP traffic to the Flash version if they have the correct Flash player version installed.

www.sitepoint.com/article/accessible-flash-parts-1-2

The trouble I have with this method is for most clients its not a viable option to expect them to pay extra for effectively two versions of the same site. It is tho recommended as an excellent method for getting multiple pages within a Flash site to rank well.

Also both articles are slightly dated now in the fact that Google appear to be able to index text within SWF files.

One last point, it may be no coincidence that while Google seems to be trying to stamp out Google bombs (detailed here: www.seroundtable.com/archives/000685.html) they&#039;ve also added SWF text indexing that may counter Flash only sites being penalised for the terms not appearing within the pages content.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. If anyone&#8217;s up for helping to promote the Flash Movie Test please only link through to this page (www.disc7.com/flash-movie-test/).</p>
<p>Regarding Mark&#8217;s how to obtimize Flash article, James Ellis wrote a technique that goes into more detail and looks at the practicalities of loading a HTML version of a Flash site for bots and redirecting SERP traffic to the Flash version if they have the correct Flash player version installed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/article/accessible-flash-parts-1-2" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sitepoint.com/article/accessible-flash-parts-1-2</a></p>
<p>The trouble I have with this method is for most clients its not a viable option to expect them to pay extra for effectively two versions of the same site. It is tho recommended as an excellent method for getting multiple pages within a Flash site to rank well.</p>
<p>Also both articles are slightly dated now in the fact that Google appear to be able to index text within SWF files.</p>
<p>One last point, it may be no coincidence that while Google seems to be trying to stamp out Google bombs (detailed here: <a href="http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/000685.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/000685.html</a>) they&#8217;ve also added SWF text indexing that may counter Flash only sites being penalised for the terms not appearing within the pages content.</p>
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		By: JesterXL		</title>
		<link>https://jessewarden.com/2004/08/flash-and-search-engine-placement-debunking-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JesterXL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article David, thank you!  I&#039;m thinking if instead of loading your content via .txt files, you load it instead from vanilla .html files, that is a better to have multiple pages that are the content for your main Flash file.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article David, thank you!  I&#8217;m thinking if instead of loading your content via .txt files, you load it instead from vanilla .html files, that is a better to have multiple pages that are the content for your main Flash file.</p>
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		By: David Urech		</title>
		<link>https://jessewarden.com/2004/08/flash-and-search-engine-placement-debunking-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Urech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[use html basics

- Place your content within &#060;noscript&#062; tags
- Place your content within &#060;object&#062; tags
- Use keyword descriptive &#060;title&#062; tags
- Use keyword descriptive &#060;meta&#062; tags

source:
http://www.search-this.com/website_promotion/optimize_Flash.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>use html basics</p>
<p>&#8211; Place your content within &lt;noscript&gt; tags<br />
&#8211; Place your content within &lt;object&gt; tags<br />
&#8211; Use keyword descriptive &lt;title&gt; tags<br />
&#8211; Use keyword descriptive &lt;meta&gt; tags</p>
<p>source:<br />
<a href="http://www.search-this.com/website_promotion/optimize_Flash.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.search-this.com/website_promotion/optimize_Flash.aspx</a></p>
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		By: JesterXL		</title>
		<link>https://jessewarden.com/2004/08/flash-and-search-engine-placement-debunking-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-1924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JesterXL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 04:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disc7, that is tight!  That is definately along the lines of what I wanted to do.

That last article has great information, thanks for the link!  Question 1 should of been worded differently; they asked a key question in architecture of the Flash, and how you should do it.  I like how their main solution is link building.  Thinking inside the box, most would focus on just the site itself, but using the blog spammer&#039;s and google bomber tactics, that is another great way to help.  You rock man, thanks a lot for the info.  I&#039;m not really sure what to add to the SWF file itself your testing... you kind of hit it all!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disc7, that is tight!  That is definately along the lines of what I wanted to do.</p>
<p>That last article has great information, thanks for the link!  Question 1 should of been worded differently; they asked a key question in architecture of the Flash, and how you should do it.  I like how their main solution is link building.  Thinking inside the box, most would focus on just the site itself, but using the blog spammer&#8217;s and google bomber tactics, that is another great way to help.  You rock man, thanks a lot for the info.  I&#8217;m not really sure what to add to the SWF file itself your testing&#8230; you kind of hit it all!</p>
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