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	<title>Comments on: Designer vs. Developer: Declaring Stage Instances</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Josh Tynjala</title>
		<link>http://jessewarden.com/2008/06/designer-vs-developer-declaring-stage-instances.html#comment-118796</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Tynjala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I submitted a feature request to Adobe. A better approach, in my opinion, would be for the Automatically Declare Stage Instances setting to completely go away. Flash should be able to determine if I've declared a stage instance or not. If I have, then it doesn't need to do anything. If I haven't, then it should declare the instance.

I encourage everyone to &lt;a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/wish" rel="nofollow"&gt;make sure Adobe knows&lt;/a&gt; we'd like a better approach to stage instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I submitted a feature request to Adobe. A better approach, in my opinion, would be for the Automatically Declare Stage Instances setting to completely go away. Flash should be able to determine if I&#8217;ve declared a stage instance or not. If I have, then it doesn&#8217;t need to do anything. If I haven&#8217;t, then it should declare the instance.</p>
<p>I encourage everyone to <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/wish" rel="nofollow">make sure Adobe knows</a> we&#8217;d like a better approach to stage instances.</p>
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		<title>By: erikbianchi</title>
		<link>http://jessewarden.com/2008/06/designer-vs-developer-declaring-stage-instances.html#comment-96454</link>
		<dc:creator>erikbianchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dang im always late and last!

dude ive been saying this for years: Flash should take a cue from .NET...

Anything on the stage is added in code in the .as file. Anything removed from stage is removed from the .as file. Nothing should be magically compiled into the swf and NOT added to the .as file for all to see as well.

I HATE how the stage and class are separate and treated with different rules.

for me though im a purist trapped in a pragmatist body (or the other way around, i forget). So I ALWAYS declare my movieclips but i have a small team and can enforce standards.

However, if your dealing with designers that just need to get things done outside of your influence, you can't spend your time purifying their code. So I saw do what works best for you at the time.

also, and i haven't touched the project panel since it never really worked for me EVER. it be nice if settings like that where in a standardized project.xml file so flash, fdt, flex etc could read and handle it to avoid the toggles between different users, ides, prefs, evil monkeys, etc.

-erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dang im always late and last!</p>
<p>dude ive been saying this for years: Flash should take a cue from .NET&#8230;</p>
<p>Anything on the stage is added in code in the .as file. Anything removed from stage is removed from the .as file. Nothing should be magically compiled into the swf and NOT added to the .as file for all to see as well.</p>
<p>I HATE how the stage and class are separate and treated with different rules.</p>
<p>for me though im a purist trapped in a pragmatist body (or the other way around, i forget). So I ALWAYS declare my movieclips but i have a small team and can enforce standards.</p>
<p>However, if your dealing with designers that just need to get things done outside of your influence, you can&#8217;t spend your time purifying their code. So I saw do what works best for you at the time.</p>
<p>also, and i haven&#8217;t touched the project panel since it never really worked for me EVER. it be nice if settings like that where in a standardized project.xml file so flash, fdt, flex etc could read and handle it to avoid the toggles between different users, ides, prefs, evil monkeys, etc.</p>
<p>-erik</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Liang</title>
		<link>http://jessewarden.com/2008/06/designer-vs-developer-declaring-stage-instances.html#comment-95876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Liang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Christ, I've stopped worry about declaring stage instances after moving to Flex..., just let the designers do the flash bit although I am still doing all by myself most of time:) It is also hard to find good flash designers too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Christ, I&#8217;ve stopped worry about declaring stage instances after moving to Flex&#8230;, just let the designers do the flash bit although I am still doing all by myself most of time:) It is also hard to find good flash designers too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sacks</title>
		<link>http://jessewarden.com/2008/06/designer-vs-developer-declaring-stage-instances.html#comment-95199</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that instead of joining designers and developers, Adobe increases the divide.

What they should have done (and still should do) is make it so you can declare stuff in the class, and if you check the box in Flash to do it for you, it doesn't complain about it, and instead says "Obviously we have a designer and developer working together here."

I don't see how it would be so hard to have an option to auto-declare turned on and also allow you to declare what you need.  I'm so tired of seeing Adobe post lame ideas like "How do we make the Actions window better?"  How about making the Flash IDE Compiler better first?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that instead of joining designers and developers, Adobe increases the divide.</p>
<p>What they should have done (and still should do) is make it so you can declare stuff in the class, and if you check the box in Flash to do it for you, it doesn&#8217;t complain about it, and instead says &#8220;Obviously we have a designer and developer working together here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how it would be so hard to have an option to auto-declare turned on and also allow you to declare what you need.  I&#8217;m so tired of seeing Adobe post lame ideas like &#8220;How do we make the Actions window better?&#8221;  How about making the Flash IDE Compiler better first?  <img src='http://jessewarden.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Polk</title>
		<link>http://jessewarden.com/2008/06/designer-vs-developer-declaring-stage-instances.html#comment-94892</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Polk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vladimir, I think your approach is very similar to how I have done in the past.  Never undervalue strongly-typed vars.  Good article Jesse, I am glad to see someone getting a consensus so we can all start implementing some standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladimir, I think your approach is very similar to how I have done in the past.  Never undervalue strongly-typed vars.  Good article Jesse, I am glad to see someone getting a consensus so we can all start implementing some standards.</p>
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